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Post by Guest from the East on May 18, 2012 21:22:43 GMT -5
Boys AA Team Predictions
SF Washington 116 RC Central 94 Brandon Valley 84 SF Lincoln 78 SF Roosevelt 72
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Post by Old Runner on May 21, 2012 0:21:11 GMT -5
Not sure about Brandon but at GDC it was Washington, Roosevelt and then 21 points back RC Central followed by Lincoln an additional 5 points back, Stevens another 49 points back and finally Sturgis and O'Gorman nearly 100 points behind Washington.
Washington will have the edge, but Roosevelt has a good chance, especially if a few of the relay teams show up. Brandon may help minimize Washington's lead. To put Lincoln ahead of Roosey is at best wishful thinking.
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Post by Guest from the East on May 21, 2012 12:20:31 GMT -5
You have to ask yourself, "will the things that happened in the GDC happen at the State meet." Will Roosevelt score 46 points in the Pole Vault, Shot Put, and Discus? Will Roosevelt score in the 400, 800, and 1600 relays? Will Roosevelt win the 110 and 300 hurdles or will they be pushed down a few places when factoring in the ESD? Will 19 feet place in the long jump? Will Tony S. run the 3200? Will they win the Medley relay with Slaba, Tuschen, and Johnsen all running the 800...who is going to get it to the final day running the 800...Tabbert who will be running the 3200 who will have to contend with Tony S., DeHaven, and Kinsley among others?
I'm not saying that the above things won't happen, but in order for Roosevelt to finish second, they MUST happen. Brandon Valley, a bit under the radar, will likely score in 13 of the 18 events. They have a good chance of placing 1st or 2nd in 7 of those events. When compared to Roosevelt...they may score in 10 events and have a chance of scoring 1st or 2nd in maybe 4 of those events. Don't underestimate teams because of conference results. Points will wash out at the state meet.
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yes what does conference mean
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Post by yes what does conference mean on May 21, 2012 13:15:58 GMT -5
yah, the Guest from the East hit the nail on the head. Conference results are skewed in certain events due to weaknesses. Roosevelt should be able to make the Medley, as I think they had 4-5 guys @ 2:02 or better. That should get it in, assuming they have a couple of living, breathing 200/400 legs.
That being said, I think Washington is probably going to roll away with the guys title.
RC Central running Tony in the 800 & 3200 is pretty risky. He'll need a huge 800 effort...and then there's DeHaven, Tabbert & Kinsely to deal with in the 3200. If those guys are smart, they're going to get after it and not jog around for a mile like in Sioux Falls. Will be a good race; wish all three classes were in the same locale so we could see it, too!
Also- just got done looking at the entry lists for AA. It took 4:36 to even make the state meet in the 1600m...so they're sitting 20-something.
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Post by Backyards sports on May 21, 2012 17:35:47 GMT -5
I see it up in the air right now but I would agree Washington would have to be the favorite right now but things do happen at state. We will see kids showing their best giving it all they got. I think we're going to have a lot of great races. In the beginning of the season you could see who worked hard over the winter months but with the season drawing down the other runners are starting to appear. As the saying goes "Don't count your chickens until the eggs hatch". I think any of those teams could come out at top. I'm not counting out RCC, BV, RHS, or LHS. If everything goes as it could for any of those teams watch out. That's what makes STATE so much fun!
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Post by indis on May 22, 2012 9:24:19 GMT -5
Lets see some individual predictions.
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100: Godi 200: Godi 400: Godi (yes, that's the tri-fecta, which will earn him MVP) 800: Waddell (will get the win now that he's not doing the 400. Thank goodness. I think we might see something insane out of him...1:51???) 1600: Smoragiewicz in probably 4:15ish 3200: DeHaven wins it. 9:22
4x800: Washington in 7:46, new state record Medley: Washington (Waddell will be fresh for this on Saturday. it won't even be close)
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Post by Guest from the East on May 22, 2012 10:46:26 GMT -5
An interesting note. By Waddell not running the 400, Washington is sacrificing a few points. He would have been first or second in the 400. He still most likely would have won the 800. The medley team with Strand (400) AND Warwick (800) would have been first or second. Washington is either confident they are not going to need those extra points, or not confident in Waddell doubling in the 400 and 800.
100 Godi 200 Gerry - 7 races in, Godi will find his legs aren't responding 400 Warwick - if it was finals only, then Godi, but this is the second day second 400 on top of everything else. 800 Waddell - He isn't going to run 1:51 without someone to push him or someone to chase. 1600 - Smoragiewicz - just a shade under 4:20 3200 - Smoragiewicz - Even after running the 800 Tony is going to be able to hang and out kick DeHaven 4x100 - Lincoln - Godi runs this relay 4x200 - Brandon Valley - Lincoln still very close and why Godi runs the 4x100 4x400 - Washington - this is the one that won't be close Medley - Washington - No one else is running it strong 4x800 - Washington - Roosevelt can't get a big enough lead to hold off Washington 110 H - Lillie - Could be close between Lillie and Gildemaster 300 H - Greenway - Won't be close at all Shot - Renner - not close Discus - Guinn - Lembke will be close and this could go either way. High Jump - Parker - Berg could make it interesting Long Jump - Vandeberg or Greenway it's always entertaining between these two Triple Jump - Vandeberg - wins by a foot
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Post by Guest from the East on May 22, 2012 10:48:30 GMT -5
Forgot pole vault
Francom with Schaefer as the top challenger
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Post by jeramin on May 23, 2012 11:48:46 GMT -5
yah, the Guest from the East hit the nail on the head. Conference results are skewed in certain events due to weaknesses. Roosevelt should be able to make the Medley, as I think they had 4-5 guys @ 2:02 or better. That should get it in, assuming they have a couple of living, breathing 200/400 legs. That being said, I think Washington is probably going to roll away with the guys title. RC Central running Tony in the 800 & 3200 is pretty risky. He'll need a huge 800 effort...and then there's DeHaven, Tabbert & Kinsely to deal with in the 3200. If those guys are smart, they're going to get after it and not jog around for a mile like in Sioux Falls. Will be a good race; wish all three classes were in the same locale so we could see it, too! Also- just got done looking at the entry lists for AA. It took 4:36 to even make the state meet in the 1600m...so they're sitting 20-something. Simple solution to "three classes in three different places problem." B in the morning, A in the afternoon, AA at night on Friday, then it stays the same on Saturday
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Post by thursday is a day on May 23, 2012 15:16:45 GMT -5
the better solution is a three-day meet, even if Thursday is only 3-4 hour evening session with all three classes.
a.) Hold all of the 3200's as finals to kick-off the state meet. b.) Hold some field event finals (one jump, one throw from each division) c.) Prelims of the 100H/110H d.) 400 Meter Dash Prelims
This makes the 400/800 or 3200/800 double more do-able. Gives the hurdle kids some flexibility in regard to other events.
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Post by Guest from the East on May 27, 2012 10:57:19 GMT -5
An interesting note. By Waddell not running the 400, Washington is sacrificing a few points. He would have been first or second in the 400. He still most likely would have won the 800. The medley team with Strand (400) AND Warwick (800) would have been first or second. Washington is either confident they are not going to need those extra points, or not confident in Waddell doubling in the 400 and 800. 100 Godi 200 Gerry - 7 races in, Godi will find his legs aren't responding 400 Warwick - if it was finals only, then Godi, but this is the second day second 400 on top of everything else. 800 Waddell - He isn't going to run 1:51 without someone to push him or someone to chase. 1600 - Smoragiewicz - just a shade under 4:20 3200 - Smoragiewicz - Even after running the 800 Tony is going to be able to hang and out kick DeHaven 4x100 - Lincoln - Godi runs this relay 4x200 - Brandon Valley - Lincoln still very close and why Godi runs the 4x100 4x400 - Washington - this is the one that won't be close Medley - Washington - No one else is running it strong 4x800 - Washington - Roosevelt can't get a big enough lead to hold off Washington 110 H - Lillie - Could be close between Lillie and Gildemaster 300 H - Greenway - Won't be close at all Shot - Renner - not close Discus - Guinn - Lembke will be close and this could go either way. High Jump - Parker - Berg could make it interesting Long Jump - Vandeberg or Greenway it's always entertaining between these two Triple Jump - Vandeberg - wins by a foot Missed on the 400, Godi and Lincoln had an impressive second day. Still thought Waddell...4 first place finishes and 4 Gold medals...was the most impressive athlete of the weekend, but the coaches and the media love the sprinters. When you figure that the state meet is set up for sprinters and jumpers to excell, winning 4 races where it takes something more than God given ability is quite impressive...no matter if it is a relay or not. Consider that in all three of these relays, Washington was trailing the leader, yet Waddell was able to pull off the victory in each. When you consider that he was running against the other teams best runners at those distances adds to how impressive it is.
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